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You won't get the benefit of the handed OE discs though Sean ;)

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Edited by terminator x, 27 September 2018 - 06:38 PM.

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Here’s a question

I get squeal going forwards but not in reverse.....

If it’s the ‘grain’ of the metal faces that’s causing my squeal then I wonder if swapping the discs over from left to right and vice versa would essentially mean the discs are running the opposite way to what they were.....

I`ve been googling,it seems swapping the discs over helps but only shortime. Another forum with similar issues has had
good results changing to grooved discs.They reckon the grooves keep the pads deglazed. Seems to make sense.

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You`re welcome to try my old wavy discs for a few weeks to see if it makes any difference. I assume the offsets the
same.

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I`ve been googling,it seems swapping the discs over helps but only shortime. Another forum with similar issues has hadgood results changing to grooved discs.They reckon the grooves keep the pads deglazed. Seems to make sense.


Sean.

Thats why i wanted to come away from the oem discs so i didn't have the useless X drilled one's & get J grooves for deglazing the pads which from what i understand are the most aggressive type of groove.

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Had to try.....

If this yields no joy then a new set it will be.


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Edited by T-800, 28 September 2018 - 07:42 PM.


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On a side note, how is everyone keeping the FL OEM disk drilled holes clear of brake dust? The larger ones are fine to attack with a posidrive screwdriver but the small ones are totally solid. Thinking about taking the Black & Decker to them...



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On a side note, how is everyone keeping the FL OEM disk drilled holes clear of brake dust? The larger ones are fine to attack with a posidrive screwdriver but the small ones are totally solid. Thinking about taking the Black & Decker to them...

Small ones are just dimples not holes.

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Edited by T-800, 28 September 2018 - 08:40 PM.


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Thanks Sean for the heads up - they would have been holes tomorrow!

 

Why are they putting dimples into the disks? Inevitable that they would be blocked by dust in the first week. Once filled with compacted brake dust the holes feel flush to the touch so will offer nothing in terms of either cooling or bite.

 

I didn't have a problem with the larger ones though - most were fairly open and a poke or two with the screwdriver cleared them fully.



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Thanks Sean for the heads up - they would have been holes tomorrow!

Why are they putting dimples into the disks? Inevitable that they would be blocked by dust in the first week. Once filled with compacted brake dust the holes feel flush to the touch so will offer nothing in terms of either cooling or bite.

I didn't have a problem with the larger ones though - most were fairly open and a poke or two with the screwdriver cleared them fully.


My outside ones were clear

However the back part of the hole on the inner disc face was solid and required the drill.

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Whilst waiting on my shims from Trevor,
0120Raptor has sent me a set of shims which I’m going to fit in the morning, hopefully solve my squealing.
Going to do the brake fluid change too.

Edited by Quattro, 28 September 2018 - 09:04 PM.


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Swapping discs has had little effect.

Squeal is there still only after a few applications from cold.

Gonna be swapping these rubbish OEM discs for Alcons.

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Just a thought. I remember reading somewhere that you should never remove the bolts between caliper and the mounting.
Only ever the bolts between the mounting and hub.There is a small amount of play between caliper and mounting so it
could be possible to torque those bolts and the caliper may not be exactly 90* to the disc.That info I read said if
you do remove those caliper / mounting bolts then just nip them up then press the brake to align caliper and only then
torque them up.
I suppose that sounds about right.If it`s aligned bob on then at least you may get equal squeal forwards and backwards.

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Sean
Just a thought. I remember reading somewhere that you should never remove the bolts between caliper and the mounting.
Only ever the bolts between the mounting and hub.There is a small amount of play between caliper and mounting so it
could be possible to torque those bolts and the caliper may not be exactly 90* to the disc.That info I read said if
you do remove those caliper / mounting bolts then just nip them up then press the brake to align caliper and only then
torque them up.
I suppose that sounds about right.If it`s aligned bob on then at least you may get equal squeal forwards and backwards.

Neil there was no real side to side play in the caliper.

Probably helps with the pads being practically brand new also.

People will undo the Caliper bolts to fit the spacer rings on the bigger Alcon discs anyway.

To be honest whilst they squeal still, it doesn’t seem as severe as before.

Stopping power is fine and there are no other issues apart from the ruddy squeal.

I’d imagine the only issues you would get is if the disc fouled on the caliper casting as it enters/exits it because the clearances are so small.

Edited by T-800, 30 September 2018 - 06:02 AM.





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